Showing posts with label torture is always wrong. Show all posts
Showing posts with label torture is always wrong. Show all posts

Tuesday, December 16, 2014

A conversation about extremist religious violence

"When will Muslims stand up and say they oppose the violence done in the name of their religion?"

"I, a Muslim, denounce the violence that's being done in name of my religion."

"Did you hear that?  He didn't say he opposed the violence that's being done in the name of his religion.  You have to ask yourself why won't he say he opposes it."

"I oppose all violence done in the name of my religion and in the name of any religion."

"Why does he have to drag all religions into it?  You don't see Christians or Jews or even those godless Hindus and other rag heads going around doing the shit that Muslims do.  And why is it he has to just say what I want him to say?  Why won't he go further and stop letting me put words in his mouth?"

"Holy shit, this guy is an idiot.  I denounce and oppose all religious violence that's been done, that's being done, and that will ever be done."

"Did you hear him just say that his Muslim buddies are plotting more religious violence?  I told you you can't trust them, their religion is inherently violent.  I demand we waterboard him until he tells us of every plot his religious fanatic buddies are going to carry out.  And then if he doesn't accept Jesus, let's used enhanced interrogation on him until he does.  Someone call Dick Cheney, I may need his help in breaking this Muslim bastard."

Friday, December 12, 2014

How do you feel about the torture report?

"I'm not sure we got the real truth out of the CIA. let's torture them until they come clean."

"It was torturous reading.  Get it?"

"It was horse shit.  And so is this stuff I'm standing in."

"If torturing those godless Muslims saved one white woman from getting raped and having to give her hymen to Allah, then it was worth it."

"Wheee!"

"I'm ashamed it was done.  I'm ashamed Bush claims he didn't know about it, I'm ashamed Dick Cheney was allowed to get away with it.  I wish there was a hell so that all those involved in doing it could go there and suffer for all eternity."

"We're pretty steamed about it."

"Those ungrateful A-rabs.  We bring them democracy and Christian capitalism and they act all pissed off because we had to torture a few naughty men?  Honestly, who do they think they are?"

Friday, June 4, 2010

Admission of guilt

Bush the Idiot, seen here enjoying a cool drink after a hard day of sitting on his ass and watching him some Cartoon Network,
finally came out and admitted publicly that he approved waterboarding. And most of us acted like his admission was nothing. No big deal.

Well kids, it was a big deal. In the words of our current Vice President, it's a big fucking deal.

You see, when the Japanese army waterboarded people in World War 2, we said it was inhumane and torture. When Texas sheriff James Parker and three of his deputies did it in the early 1980's they all got fired and were sent to prison for it and guess who prosecuted them for it, St. Reagan's Department of Justice. Military dictatorships in South America did and we loudly and publicly condemned them for doing it, but in private we shoved money and weapons at them because they kept the Commies out of this hemisphere. You see where I'm going with this, bad people used waterboarding. Slimy human right violators used waterboarding and most all of them were imprisoned for doing so. Except for George W. Bush and Dick Cheney.

If it's wrong for the Japanese to do it in World War 2, then it's wrong for us to have done it. If that sheriff in Texas got four years in prison for doing it, then Bush should be tried and convicted for doing it. The fact that a privileged white man ordered people to torture in the name of the USA doesn't make it right. If it's a war crime for Asians to do it, it's a war crime for Americans to do it. And the excuse that 9/11 'changed everything' doesn't hold water. The bombing of the Twin Towers didn't make torture an accepted thing to do. The deaths of over three thousand people didn't make it suddenly right to torture. Wrong is wrong, no matter what.

It's a god damned shame that our establishment President, the man we elected because he told us he was going to change things and bring hope back, won't prosecute Bush for his war crimes. Well, to be honest, I see why Obama won't prosecute Bush. It's because Obama is a war criminal himself. His use of unmanned drones by is a violation of international law because the CIA is in charge of that program. If it was under the aegis of the military than it would be legal under international law, it still wouldn't be morally right, but it would be legal. Can't have one war criminal going after another, it just wouldn't be right. But the irony here is that if Obama ever orders the use of waterboarding, then the Republicans and the pundits in right wing echo chamber aren't going to pat him on the back and thank him for 'keeping America safe,' nope, they're going to scream that the negro socialist tortured people and he should be drawn and quartered for doing so.

So Bush dragged us into the torture gutter, got us mired in two wars we can never ever 'win,' (although I'm not sure just what there is to win in Iraq and Afghanistan), and made the use of torture an acceptable part of intelligence gathering. And he walks away from all of it with a smirk on his face and a spring in his alcoholic step. It's times like these that I wish the Christian fairy tales were true and that there was such a place as hell and that Bush and all the others who were in charge and who ordered the waterboarding torture of others would spend the rest of eternity in a lake of fire getting burned and gang raped by hoary demons and rabid animals.

Wait, no. That punishment is too good for Bush and his crew. Fuck it. History will judge them to be the craven stupid shortsighted bastards they really are and that's punishment enough I guess.

Tuesday, May 19, 2009

Go Jesse go

Jesse Ventura tears that conservative shrew Elizabeth Hasslebeck a new one:

I love how she tries to equate Nancy Pelosi's faulty memory with the fact that her beloved her ex Vice President ordered torture. Ventura is right, the whole thing could have been avoided if we had just followed the rule of law and not tortured in the first place. I'm betting Ms. Shrew will be going on FOX Noise and claiming that Ventura was rude and oh so mean to her.