Tuesday, June 30, 2009

Mortified

I am absolutely mortified that someone I went to college with is stupid enough to believe in creationism. It boggles my mind that someone who went to a four year college can come out of it believing that superstitious nonsense.

I added this person as a friend on Facebook the other day because we were acquaintances back at ol' King College and we were both history majors. He was a couple of years behind me and was a nice enough guy. I knew he believed in that Christian mumbo jumbo but I assumed he had enough sense to realize that evolution is true and that creationism and intelligent design are fake science that can't be proven. But I was wrong.

His status update yesterday proclaimed that he was looking forward to going to the creationist museum and to some Cinncinatti Reds baseball games while on vacation. Ok, going to a Reds game is bad enough, not quite as bad attending a Washington Nationals or Baltimore Orioles game, but come the fuck on, the creationist museum? I was hoping was going to go so that he could mock it, as my buddy Keith did last year, but I was wrong again. I asked him via Facebook if he has fallen for that nonsense of creationism and he quoted me back a bible verse and said that yes, he had fallen for it.

It's beyond me how people can ignore the mountains of scientific evidence so that they can cling to lies of their chosen religion. The earth is not a little over 6000 years olds like the evangelists and true believers say it is, it's millions of years old. You know how we know that? Science. Science has not only proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that the earth is millions of years old, it's also given us things like modern medicine, air conditioning, central heat, cars, television, the space program. You know what religion has given us? Fear, hatred, and willful ignorance that is not only stupid, it's dangerous and it kills.

I feel sorry for my old college mate. He's chosen to stay in the shadows cowering in fear of his almighty god while he ignores all the beauty and wonder of science and intelligence. He's chosen to have one fixed thought and position in his life and to try to make all things outside of his religion fit into his rigid Bronze age scheme of things. When we didn't know how things worked we invented a god who loved us and said that he made it all for us. Now that we know better we need to put the metaphor of god and religions in their proper place, the fiction shelf.

This whole business about evolution and science can and should be accepted by "committed" Christians. And for the most part most of them accept evolution and science as facts that are not incompatiable with their faith, I have other friends who are devout believers and they square all this evolution business with their religion by claiming that their god is behind it all, which is wrong but as long as they don't deny evolution is real and happening as we speak then that's a moral victory for science and reason. But I guess there are some people who are just too stubborn to accept the facts.

20 comments:

Joe said...

Here's what I don't get. I've grown up with plenty of religious people, still know a whole bunch, and they all believe in evolution. NOT believing in evolution would've branded you as a total crackpot 20 or 30 years ago, regardless of how strong your faith was.

What happened?

Dr. Monkey Von Monkerstein said...

Somewhere along the way the conservative literalists hijacked your faith and they've ruined it for the rest of you. They make all of you Christians look bad.

Ubermilf said...

Sorry; I didn't really connect my thoughts before.

Conservatives haven't just hijacked religion, but our civic life in general.

In the NYT article about that crazy pastor who wants people to bring guns to church, an NRA rep said, “We have right-to-carry laws in over 40 states; 20 years ago, it was in just six.”

This country took such a hard turn to the right with St. Ronnie Reagan that it's going to take a while to undo the damage. But if you look back even to colonial times, the European residents of this continent have been shifting back and forth for centuries. So, patience?

Darius Whiteplume said...

Ugh. Cinci has a creation museum? Thank the Invisible Pink Unicorn (B.B.H.H.H) that Larry Flynt is still alive to bother them.

Anonymous said...

If one believes in God, he should also accept science as Gods work. The wonders of science are modern day miracles. I would think those searching for God would find him in a biology or physics book. Instead we tend to look for him in sociology books and morality plays. I would never belittle the importance of being being good to each other. I just believe that God should be so much more than that.

Snad said...

Invite him to come visit the Grey Fossil Site. Perhaps he will implode when the reality comes crashing in on him.

themom said...

Being surrounded by Christians (family wise) they really like to jump on me for my atheist views. Intelligent arguments mean nothing to these idiots. I love how they always find a bible verse to suit their purpose, when I can find another to shoot them down! Hypocrites at best! Go Dr. MVM.

dguzman said...

I've met enough good Christian people to know that it's not the faith that's stupid; it's the reich-wing neocon wackos who've fucked it all up, equating God with guns, freedom, fer-us-or-agin-us republicanism. Those are the people who buy that creationism bullshit. The Christians I know and respect are way too smart to believe that crap.

Mnmom said...

My head explodes when they claim all the fossils and dinosaur bones were put there by God 6,000 years ago to "test" us. Test us? For what???

I like to think I'm a tolerant person but willful ignorance and obtuse thinking make me want to smack some people.

My opinion is that spirituality and science are NOT mutually exclusive. Science reminds me how much we have yet to learn about life.

Darius Whiteplume said...

re:Dinosaur bone. Bill Hicks said something about not wanting to believe in a god that was intentionally fucking with people :-)

Bill was the king.

Anonymous said...

I know a few people on Facebook too who post about going to evangelical concerts and raving about that horrible Ben Stein movie and other slightly right wing garbage. While a strong part of me wants to write a sarcastic nasty comment on their FB walls, I just leave them alone.

So far they haven't tried to convert me to their side of the fence (Except for one guy who tried to get me to vote for the Conservatives. Ha! Like that's ever going to happen!), so why should I? Yes, these people are kinda nuts, but I'd rather spend my energy elsewhere.:)

Spooney said...

When I was starting my present band I was playing with a drummer for a while who told me he was a born again. I thought, ok…whatever.
Then he started asking me to change some of my lyrics...which I refused to do. Then one day I asked him if he believed in evolution...he said no, that he believed in creationism, so I had to let him go. I couldn’t be in a band with someone who had such ridiculous beliefs.

Dr. Monkey Von Monkerstein said...

Good for you Spooney.

Anonymous said...

All this mockery you're dishing out just about makes me think you must be right. The ridicule is so rational. Particularly the way you say "raving", "crazy", "reich-wing", "stubborn" in such a scientifically sound way. Such irrefutable logic should really show 'em who's right.

Dr. Monkey Von Monkerstein said...

Ahh how nice, now I have my own Christian troll! Welcome Craig. All are welcome here until you violate my comment policy, which I'm sure you'll do pretty quickly and then when I start deleting your comments you'll scream I am violating your freedom of speech. Which of course I will not be doing since you have the freedom to speak of your cult religion anywhere you like except here in my internet home.

joe said...

I believe in creationism. I believe the bible, and I believe in God, his son Jesus and the Holy Spirit.

Little Merry Sunshine said...

My personal belief is that (1) evolution and creationism are not mutually exclusive. The Bible talks about how God created the world in 6 days (he took a break on day 7). Hello people!? Isn't that EVOLUTION??? The Bible does NOT say that these days were strict 60 minute, 24 hour periods. In fact, I don't believe that the Bible actually defines "day," so it seems to me that the religious community has imposed our current belief on what a day is onto the Bible.

Second, in my own personal life experience, anyone who runs around screaming about what a "good Christian" they are will be the first person to stab me in the back, so I'd better watch out. To the Christian troll, please don't scream at me that Christians don't act this way. Of course they don't. I know that. That's my point. But look at the folks who scream about what good Christians they are - the dude who just murdered Dr. Tiller, Mark Sanford, George Bush, Sarah Palin. The list could go on. I'm just talking about my own life experience.

Cal's Canadian Cave of Coolness said...

The way I look at it is that when they die they are expecting something great complete with puppy's and rainbows and all the gay people they can stone. There letdown is gonna be huge and that actually makes me feel good. I know there is nothing after death so I am free to pursue my non-judgemental agenda right here on Earth. Choke on your bronze age book of fairytales you bunch of haters.

Darius Whiteplume said...

@Calvin - :-D

Happy Canada Day, BTW.

Cap'n Ergo "XL+II" Jinglebollocks said...

what really burns MY bacon is when I say something like, "you know, Adam and Eve walked 'round nekkid all th' time. I think we should too!" and go into some sort of spiel about being Godly and all that. Usually I'm ignored, so I just don't get it...